Innovating The Way We Teach Leadership S13 Ep12

Guest: Joshua Spodek

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When I was in college, the way we learned was lecture, reading and testing — with a little bit of lab work tossed in for good measure. When it comes to leadership, universities still teaches using this same model. The result is the struggle for graduates to understand the difference between management and leadership. To prepare leaders, we need to innovate the way we teach leadership.

Topics we covered discussing how to innovation the way we teach leadership ..

  • Joshua's experience growing up in Philadelphia and the social norms for nerds
  • On going through school and ultimately getting his PhD in Astrophysics
  • His work experience as a “rocket scientist”
  • Getting the entrepreneurial itch and doing his first startup
  • The realization that management does NOT equal leadership
  • Why he went back to school to get his MBA
  • What he learned and didn't learn getting his MBA
  • How acting exposed him to experiential learning
  • How applying experiential learning transformed how to prepare leaders to lead
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About Joshua Spodek

Joshua Spodek, bestselling author of Leadership Step by Step, is an Adjunct Professor at NYU, leadership coach and workshop leader for Columbia Business School, columnist for Inc., and founder of Spodek Academy.

He has led seminars in leadership, entrepreneurship, creativity, and sales at Harvard, Princeton, MIT, the New York Academy of Science, and in private corporations. He holds five Ivy League degrees, including a PhD in Astrophysics and an MBA, and studied under a Nobel Prize winner. He helped build an X-ray observational satellite for NASA, co-founded and led as CEO or COO several ventures, and holds six patents.

He earned praise as “Best and Brightest” (Esquire Magazine’s Genius Issue), “Astrophysicist turned new media whiz” (NBC), and “Rocket Scientist” (ABC News and Forbes) and has been quoted and profiled by ABC, CBS, NBC, the New York Times, and the Wall Street Journal. He has visited North Korea twice, swam across the Hudson River, and has done burpees every day for six years, 90,000+ and counting. He lives in Greenwich Village and blogs daily at

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